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How can you see someone's real character on shidduch dates? Anger, stress, mistakes, maturity

Each line below comes from a rav, a shadchan or an author: what to watch and what to ask so you see character rather than charm. Each links to the full answer.

24 pointsask your rav

ImportantWhere there are threats, violence, ongoing humiliation or control, safety and professional help come first. Working on yourself is no substitute for protection from abuse. In immediate danger, call your local emergency services; discuss halachic questions with a rav. Questions about abuse — a separate set of answers (in Russian)

The small things that show character

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    Watch how he treats the waiter and the valet, whether he turns off his phone, whether he is easily irritated — and how he interacts with his family: that is probably how he will interact with a spouse.

    Someone who blames others for his misfortunes has usually not yet learned to take responsibility for his own behaviour; deep warmth for family and rabbanim points to a love of people in general.

    Leah Jacobs and Shaindy Marks · shadchanitimportant
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    You can easily judge the character of a person by how they treat those who can do nothing for them: waiters, drivers, service workers.

    What is telling is how one treats those from whom one expects no benefit; the principle is applied to waiters, drivers and other workers.

    Malcolm Forbes · authorimportant
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    You are sitting under the air conditioning — does he notice you are cold, offer to switch seats or ask for another table? Small kindnesses tell a big story.

    And listen to what he tells about himself: do not dismiss anything that makes you cringe.

    Ruki D. Renov · authorimportant
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    The reaction to someone else's good news: an emotionally healthy person can hold his own discomfort at bay and genuinely share in the other's joy at the same time.

    Finding someone else's engagement hard while you wait for your own is normal; the marker is the ability to rejoice anyway.

    Rav Reuven Epsteinimportant
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    On his first meeting the girl's little brother accidentally broke the dishes by pulling the tablecloth; the girl calmly comforted the child first rather than rushing to the broken dishes.

    The book says of the rav's reaction: he had a good feeling about the shidduch when he saw how she had handled that situation.

    Rav Yechezkel Abramskya personal answer
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    Notice how he handles awkwardness, traffic and unpleasant people, matching deeds to words.

    After the preliminary checking, a general impression is enough on the first date; the finer nuances, they say, can wait: there will be time for that on the second date.

    Leah Jacobs and Shaindy Marks · shadchanita personal answer
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    Pay attention to reactions to inconveniences, to respectful arguing, to taking criticism and to how he treats other people — and meet his circle: the company one keeps says a lot.

    See each other in varied natural settings, and do not put romantic scenery at the centre of getting to know each other.

    Gila Manolson · authorask your rav
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Anger and frustration

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    The most useful moments are the ones that go wrong: the waiter mixed up the order, a driver cut in, plans fell through. Does he curse, hold on to the anger, recover quickly.

    Your date's reaction reveals a wealth of well-kept secrets.

    Ruki D. Renov · author
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    He cites the advice of Orchos Tzaddikim to anyone about to marry to observe that person when angry: calm routine does not show whether he will stay respectful in a crisis.

    These records do not describe how to arrange such a test or where its limits lie.

    Michael Kaufman · authorask your ravone voiceimportant
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    On their second date she asked her future husband to recall a time he had to raise his voice or got angry — and they discussed whether it was a conscious decision or a loss of control.

    This single story is not, on its own, a safety check of the relationship.

    Gitty Epstein · authorone voice
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    Ask how a spouse should best express strong anger at him — and settle it while calm, not once the person is already annoyed.

    It is not the best move to wait until a person is angry to tell him how you like to be approached with a hard conversation.

    Amber Adler · authorone voice

Stress and pressure

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    Ask how he keeps from projecting his stress onto someone else in a time of extreme tension — with an example of such a time and where he learned that.

    Alongside: what stress is for him and whether he has thought how to keep it out of his life; what rest is for him and whether he really rests that way.

    Amber Adler · authorone voice
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    Challenges reveal a person's level of emotional intelligence: ask in detail how he went through a hard situation. Read any single sign together with its context, not as a ready diagnosis.

    In his practice a husband's extreme anger turned out to be a reaction to provocations his wife deliberately filmed.

    Rav Reuven Epstein

Mistakes, blame and promises to change

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    "How do they react when they're wrong?" — does he own the mistake or get defensive and shift blame; does he keep his word, apologise for being late, and how does he speak about people.

    Constant belittling of people and outbursts over small things she advises not to ignore.

    Miriam Zeitlin · authorimportant
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    Judge patterns of behaviour, not every little mistake or off day: everyone has bad days.

    If you screen out everyone for a single ugly episode, almost no one will pass the bar.

    Miriam Zeitlin · author
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    If something bothers you and it can be remedied by one hour of training, it is not worth worrying about; the test is the willingness to change.

    Without clear priorities it is easy to reject someone for a "trait" that is really just a habit.

    Leah Jacobs and Shaindy Marks · shadchanit
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    The young man spoke with the rabbi about patience for fifteen minutes and asked him to assure the girl that all was now fine; the rabbi replied that they would have to wait for evidence that he was really becoming more patient.

    His certainty of an instant transformation showed he did not understand what patience is.

    Rav Zelig Pliskin (the story as told by that young man’s rabbi)one voice

Maturity: character, not charm

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    Mature people are committed to working at a marriage: they can give and share without measuring every time whether it came out even.

    This is not about age or a serious look, but about how the person acts where no one is keeping score.

    Ruki D. Renov · authorone voice
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    Personality is the funny story and the well-timed word; character is all the behind-the-scenes ways a person shows up in your life when there is nothing to be gained: who quietly gets up to fold the chairs.

    Her Pinny is charming on first meeting but chronically late, jokes instead of apologising, and is rude to the waiter.

    Miriam Zeitlin · author
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    You want to marry an essence, not an image: beauty, charm and success dazzle, but they do not replace character and spiritual aspirations.

    Her brilliant Ephraim turned out self-centred and unwilling to change; a spouse must also cope with practical life.

    Gila Manolson · author
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    Tell him about an accident — you will hear his accident story; mention a vacation — he will tell you about his: the person who somehow redirects every conversation back to himself.

    He counts this among the signs of low emotional intelligence.

    Rav Reuven Epstein

Where to look — and what you cannot see before the wedding

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    There are people who are on their best behaviour in public but act differently when alone with their family; the Rokeach points to watching at home, the Chizkuni to outside parental supervision: both settings matter.

    A comparison of two explanations of how Rivka was tested.

    Rav Naftali Weinbergera personal answer
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    The real key to how respectfully a person will act after marriage is their attitude toward their parents; look also at how the parents treat each other.

    He advises counting on a serious change in an adult's character only with consistent evidence of work on himself.

    Michael Kaufman · authora personal answer
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    An honest limit: character really shows under the load of marriage, and general assurances about middos before the wedding say little.

    He puts it categorically — there is no way of knowing a person's middos until after the wedding.

    Rav Nachum Diamant

What the labels mean

ask your rav
This page shows what different sources have written on the question. The practical decision belongs to your own rav.
one voice
Only one author is presented here. Several of his answers or publications do not amount to agreement among independent sources.
a personal answer
This is an answer given to a particular person in his or her circumstances, or guidance the source itself does not present as a general rule. Check whether it applies to your situation.
important
Where there are threats, violence, ongoing humiliation or control, safety and professional help come first. Working on yourself is no substitute for protection from abuse. In immediate danger, call your local emergency services; discuss halachic questions with a rav.

What the books do not cover

  • No source proposes testing on a date whether the person can yield (vatranus): the books speak of vitur only as advice to the reader himself.
  • How he handles his own mistakes is one line by Miriam Zeitlin ("How do they react when they're wrong?"); the rest is about habits and one-off lapses.
  • Stress as a date topic comes from Amber Adler alone (one voice); Rav Reuven Epstein advises asking in detail about hardships the person went through.
  • The books do not use clinical labels as dating signs; this sheet lists behaviours, not diagnoses.

Answered by people, not a program

Nobody makes up an answer on the spot here. Behind every answer is the experience of well-known rabbanim, rebbetzins and shadchanim — their own words from their books and responses. The name stands next to each answer, and where views differ, all of them are shown.

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